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CallumCraddy



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 PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:43 pm    Post subject: age limits in rallying??? Reply with quote Back to top

Does anyone know the age limit in rallying? Of course, i dont mean 12 car or road rallying as i know you need to be taxed/tested and insured on the road as well as have a license.
I am only 16 years old and have a project going with a mk4 fiesta to start rallying, i was wondering what requirements are needed and if i can even take part in any at my age?

If anyone can tell me - thanks a lot!

Callum Craddy.



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 PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The MSA stipulate that the minimum age to be a driver is 17 and must hold a current driving licence. Altho, there is something called Junior Formula 1000 which is for drivers aged 14 - 17, but with conditions. more info is at www.formula1000.co.uk
 you may be interested to know that we S&DMC are running a round of this championship later this year. Derek Holgate is the person to speak to about that. I will pm you his email address.
 
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 PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Getting Started in Rallying
Introduction
   
One of the most popular form of motor sport in Britain, perhaps because it involves ordinary-looking cars. It involves two people working together: a driver and a co-driver or navigator, and the cars normally run at one-minute intervals, competing against the clock rather than directly against each other.

Another major attraction of rallying is that it takes place throughout Great Britain. Although most special stage events take place in less populated areas, road rallies are held even in the Home Counties.
 


 


For further information please contact us on rally@msauk.org  


 

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Special Stage Rallying
 
These are far more expensive than road rallies, with more emphasis upon car preparation, speed and driver ability, rather than navigational skills.
More information  


Road Rallying
 
While very specialised cars are required for top-level special stage rallying, unmodified, everyday cars can be used for simple road events, making this one of the cheapest forms for motor sport available.
More information  




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The Novice Stage Rally Driver Scheme
 
Any one who does not possess a Stage Rally Licence (apart from certain exceptions, see below) must first apply to the MSA for a "Go Rallying" Pack. The pack contains – among other information – a "Competitors Yearbook", a DVD and a novice licence application form. The pack contains instructions on the procedure for obtaining a Stage Rally National B Licence.

Since 1 January 2002, every driver competing in stage rallies has been required to hold a Stage Rally Competition Licence. Competitors (including co-drivers) are no longer able to apply for their Competition Licences on the day of an event.


The Stage Rally National B Licence may be issued, without other qualification, to any of the following:
 

Anyone who held a Non-Race National B Competition Licence prior to 31st December 2001.

Anyone who held any MSA Competition Licence which was valid for driving in Stage Rallies prior to 31st December 2001. This category comprises all Race, Kart, Speed, Drag and Rally Licences (each of which has always been valid as a Non-Race National B). Evidence of having driven on a Stage Rally is not required.


Drivers not qualified as above will be required to successfully complete the BARS course. These are:
 

Anyone who has previously held only a Non-Race Clubmans Licence.

Anyone who has previously held only a Rally National A Navigator Licence.

Anyone who has never previously held any type of Competition Licence.


The Stage Rally National B Licence and what it covers:
 

The Stage Rally Licence is the only Licence which entitles the holder to drive in Stage Rallies. It may also be used for any other event requiring either a Non-Race National B or Non-Race Clubmans Licence.

Any competitor wishing to drive in Stage Rallies will be required to apply for a Stage Rally National B Licence. No Stage Rally event will accept Non-Race National B Licences for drivers.


Any competitor wishing to navigate in Stage Rallies may apply for a Non-Race National B, Rally National A Navigator or (if entitled) a Stage Rally National B Licence. None of these licences may be applied for on the day of an event; every Stage Rally competitor is now required to be in possession of his or her licence prior to competing.
 
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 PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Special Stage Rallies
Introduction
 
These are far more expensive than road rallies, with more emphasis upon car preparation, speed and driver ability, rather than navigational skills.

Most famous rallies are special stage events, like the Wales Rally GB , Britain's round of the FIA World Rally Championship .

At a national level the British Rally Championship is the most significant challenge and incorporates rounds across the country.



The basis of such events - the special stage - is a stretch of road closed to all other traffic, which must be covered at a high average speed.




In most of Great Britain (the exceptions are Northern Ireland, the Isle of Man, the Isle of Mull, the Channel Islands and the roads used by the Jim Clark Memorial Rally), public roads are not available for this purpose, so special stage events use private land, frequently Forestry Commission roads or disused airfields.



Linking the special stages are sections of public road, where the required average speed is low (usually 30mph or slower).


Because of these sections, all competing cars must be properly taxed, tested and insured.

 

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Major UK Events
 
British Rally Championship

(Events in England, Scotland, Wales and Isle of Man).

 
Wales Rally GB

(FIA World Rally Championship) in October.

 
If you require further information about the Wales Rally GB please contact International Motor Sports at: rallygb@msaevents.co.uk  

 
 
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Minimum Requirements
The Driver must be at least 17 years old and must hold a valid Road Traffic Driving Licence.
Before you can apply for your first Stage Rally Driver Licence, you must do the following:

 
1. Purchase a "Go Rallying" starter pack from MSA which includes a DVD, a copy of the Motor Sports Yearbook, the necessary application form, plus various other useful items.

2. Complete a one-day MSA course for novice drivers, run only by members of the British Association of Rally Schools (BARS). Contact your local school for costs.
   
MSA Rallying  
Visit the MSA shop   to buy this pack.  


When you have obtained a Competition Licence, you will require the following:
 
A car with added safety equipment (rollcage, fire extinguishers fireproofing, etc).

An MSA Log Book.

A navigator or co-driver who is at least 16 years old and holds a valid club membership card and a Non-Race National B or higher Competition Licence.

crash helmets and flame-resistant overalls.

 


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Rally Driver Schools
All rally schools teach driving techniques for special stage rallying.

A one-day course offers a chance to try rallying in someone else's car, to discover whether you enjoy the sport before spending your own money!

Some schools offer courses for front-, rear- and four-wheel drive cars, or for driving on asphalt and loose surfaces. A few schools offer courses for co-drivers, teaching advance skills such as pacenotes and services planning.

Click here for schools who are members of the British Association of Rally Schools (BARS) and are registered with the MSA


Rally Driving School Assessment
The driving assessment part of the test is quite straight forward. The Assessor will be looking for a safe and competent attitude behind the wheel rather than any advanced rallying techniques (hand brake turns etc.).


For example, the following points will be assessed:


Driving position
Hold on steering wheel
Use of brakes
Car positioning
Throttle control
Anticipation of hazards
Driving attitude & confidence on the relevant stage surface
Drives a "clean" Special Stage at a "reasonable" speed without hitting any marker cones.
Car sympathy

It is assumed that applications may not have had any formal rally driving training before this assessment.
 
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 PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Above info is from the MSA website, however

http://www.formula1000.co.uk/

has rallying for 14-17 year olds, see below.



The Formula 1000 Club will organise the Kick Energy Acceleration TV Junior 1000 Rally Championship in 2009 in accordance with the Motor Sport Association (MSA) regulations, these Championship Regulations and the Supplementary Regulations of the qualifying rounds.

Permit Number: 2009/7268  
   

1. Eligible Competitors

1.1. All competitors MUST be a member of the Formula 1000 Club in order to compete and score points.


1.2. The membership will be valid from the 1st January 2009 until the 31st December 2009.

The following fees apply:

Club Membership £5
Championship Registration for Driver £25
Championship Registration for Co-Driver £10
Junior Driver Licence 2009 Stage Rally national B £48

1.3. ALL members MUST pay the £5 club membership fee. Championship registration for Driver/ Co-Driver DOES NOT cover this fee.

2. Specific Driver Requirements

2.1. Drivers must be a minimum of 14 yrs old to compete. Drivers may compete until the 31st December in the year of their 17th Birthday.

2.2. Minimum height of 1.40m

2.3. Must have completed a minimum of 3 production car autotests, one of which
MUST be an F1000 organised event

2.4. Drivers must have passed the Formula 1000 Junior Championship entrance test.

2.5. Drivers will not hold their own licence, instead licences will be held by the Formula 1000 Junior Rally Championship Secretary. Therefore it will be the Championship Secretary who acts on behalf of the committee when matters involving licences arise.
 
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 PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Colin and Sally both passed their BARS test last Friday

Sally



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