Croft Historic rally Feb 1st 2009

club sec · Croft Historic rally Feb 1st 2009

Planning will be starting in the next few weeks, any help or input gladly received.

We are looking at a new format and more tests this coming year.

Gav Taylor

will be sitting this one out but I wish you the best of luck and hope you build on an already successful event.

club sec

I like the commitment, 8 months notice adn you have backed out already

must be scared of the dark are you?

Gav Taylor

Just no interest in classics mate.

club sec

What about the best interests of the club, and isn't a flying bubble arched mark 1 more than a classic?

Gav Taylor

dont mind helping out with the odd task, but why not use last years team?

club sec

Er, because most of them are lacking in drive or tied up with the TOH.

Gav Taylor

club sec

No longer a valid excuse.

Gav Taylor

Gav Taylor

I wont mind helping out doing a few flashy promo vids and the like but who is the marketing guy for the CHR?

club sec

Marketing guy? How many people do you think are in the club? If you ask a question of who does what I'd say you have an 8 in 10 chance of it being me.

Gav Taylor

nuff said bro

steaallan

er esqueeze me marti i offer and do as much as i can to help and organise and i will again this year on the Croft and ToH and i am hoping to do preston farm again and also a few othere promo events with hopefully no brokeback problems next year

club sec

Ok 7 out of 10

steaallan

you know how much i have done and am willing to do look at the championship points and that is with taking a lot of time off and missing events due to work and been laid up with my back if it wasnt for that i would have had quite a few more points i think. Granted you do the most i think but be fair

club sec

steaallan

GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Gav Taylor

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Road Rally Dave

Just seen a thread on the BR Forum about possibility of The Shaw Trophy road rally being re-scheduled to Jan 31st / Feb 1st 2009. This will produce an event clash for some competitors & officials (including me & John).

I've put a reply on to inform about Croft Historic being on 1st Feb.

Think it might be worth someone contacting Whickham MC "officially" - Club Sec ??

Gav Taylor

testing times for SDMC at the minute

Road Rally Dave

stevewag

well as you know very busy with TOH and will have started a new job by then...but if ya want route checking over an timings I am sure dererk and I can do that.

also will of course be there on the day too....

Did you sort Matthew out for results again....

Shaw trophy - of course first it has to run! and also whats wrong with the good old days - One year did tyneside stages reccee to help someone out- st wilfs steward and then a route survey for the three rivers all in one weekend....!

Road Rally Dave

club sec

Help, mostly marshals required.

Volunteers to help out on the run up very welcome.

stevewag

I think my services are already volunteered.....arent they

Steve

Road Rally Dave

El John will be back in blighty over Xmas, so will see if he is due to be around in case we are needed for Clock Car duties.

club sec

Steve- noted, Derek has chipped in with the offer of CC and route check.

RRD and El JT clock car is your's if you can do it.

skodaman

For the record, my Triumph GT6 was offered for course car - What does it take to get a free lash around Croft ????????

steaallan

yes and i did say i would navvi for colin

Road Rally Dave

Is someone going to start a Croft thread on the BR Forum for a bit of extra publicity (for new to the event entrants & species) ?
Steve Wag has done this in the past, but I will start it if needed.

Think we should include info on whether species are allowed at Croft and if so, how much is entrance charge. Plus what time first car arrives at Croft (presumably we only want species to go to Croft ?).
Also, for potential entrants, description of the surface of the 2 new test venues (is it one venue visited twice, or two separate venues ?) so they can choose suitable tyres for the event.

I am also pleased to report that El John should be back in UK by end of Jan so we are able to perform Clock Car duties (with Ryan's help as usual)
- see you all in 4 weeks.

club sec

Spectators are allowed, we will not be charging but llike last year the circuit owners may provide a bucket for donations to their nominated charity.

There will be a catering van on site doing bacon sandwiches/ burgers/ tea/ coffee etc.

No spectators at the start/ finish or the remote tests, Croft circuit is the only place we can manage people safely.

The cars will be going through Barton ford on one of the regularities.

Overall the tests are about 75% sealed tarmac, 25% of broken tarmac, farm track and loose surface. First car will be at Croft around 9.30am.

The outline is that cars start at the football ground, neutral to Croft then tests on the circuit, regularity, remote test, regularity, remote test, regularity, Croft, neutral, football club- finish.

Any queries the list of contacts is on www.crofthistoricrally.co.uk

club sec

CHR meeting tomorrow 8pm.

Road Rally Dave

CHR thread started on BR Forum (in Road Rally section).

Gav Taylor

so will croft circuit as a business entity not be charging speccys then?

If thats true then DDMC pulled the wool over everyones eyes when they said the £8 entrance fee was a standard fee charges by the circuit.

I see the entry list is only showing 11 entries...anymore to be processed guys?

min 25 in the regs isnt it?

I for one dont want to see an other of our events pulled due to numbers as I've experienced first hand the effort they take to put on.

club sec

16 as far as I know.

Yes they had your pants down at the Xmas stages charging you, though they may use that to offset the circuit hire costs.

Gav Taylor

missed a trick there then havent you? a fiver in could have helped offset our costs

club sec

It doesn't cost us as much due to the type of event, and we are not all about the money unlike some clubs I could name.

Our aim is 10% clear on each event, which I am sure you being a business graduate would admit is a reasonable result.

Gav Taylor

yeah definitely agree though i just thought with the exposure we had with the Guy Wilks night etc maybe we could have made at least some money back to be used elsewhere in the club.

anyway this ones nowt to do with me

club sec

But it could be........

Gav Taylor

not gonna jump in now like, you boys have done the graft.

I'll stick with my TOH 09, getting that filled up with the current economic climate will put enough on my plate.

bob_mck

did anyone see in the news that darlo football ground is having a stand or two knocking down to build a hotel. Any ideas when the work starts (because they have planning permision) or what the situation would be for future events?

Gav Taylor

aye I heard it mate, gonna bang all the polish students in there or build offices.

wont be for a good few months yet and its a stand that never gets used so I cant see any effect on the rally bro.

bob_mck

i was thinking of the "noise" for the residents
You know what these jobsworths are like!!!
for next year i mean

Gav Taylor

true mate, how popular is rallying in Poland BTW?

bob_mck

Gav Taylor

fancy a look over?

bob_mck

Gav Taylor

it'll be the cheapest WRC round to do....including wales!

I'll scope some flights out. I know a lass in Australia who flew in to Sweden to meet me for the WRC there who says she can get cheap accomo in Poland.

you might even be able to sleep with her if you play your cards right

Gav Taylor

so little time to go and yet i see hardly any forum action on the main rally sites????

come on boys get it together.

Road Rally Dave

Entries seem to be coming in steadily - up to 22 now according to CHR website.
There is an Historic event in / around Berwick on Sunday so hopefully there will be another batch of entries next week from people who have finished Sunday's event intact.

club sec

25 as of today.

Road Rally Dave

Think that Mike is doing the Berwick event in the BMW, so am sure he will be drumming up more interest.

Road Rally Dave

club sec

Not sure on the status of marshals, there are 45 entries which is the most we have had in the 3 years of running the event.

Road Rally Dave

Website now showing 47 crews entered, plus on the BR Forum, Andy Beaumont reckons there is another on it's way

"i know of another entry sent in yesterday
andy & jake burns lotus sunbeam"

If you receive over 50 entries, are you going to offer the late entries a Reserve place to be taken if any of the first 50 pulls out before the start ?
What a nice problem to have (if it happens)

club sec

Spare capacity means we are not likely to need reserves.

club sec

Marshals contact

chrmarshal@hotmail.com

ASAP please.

joe_the_waiter

club sec

We are not "arsed" because we put 100% effort into everything else, you should try it some time.

club sec

I think we need to stop this.

bob_mck

looks like a hornets nest has been disturbed

club sec

Independent voice of reason, thanks Bob.

Mike Smailes

I agree with Club Sec - we need to stop all this bickering as it's totally unconstructive. Surely the forum is meant to be used for the betterment of the club?

slippy

Is betterment a word

club sec

Right we are in to the last week before the event, all help welcome on the day.

Marshals please PM JTW or click the link from www.crofthistoricrally.co.uk

48 entries, 2 withdrawn, so in effect a full entry, not bad for a country in recession.

Mike and I would like to thank all those involved in the event in any capacity, lets hope for good weather and a good event.

Final meeting will be this Wednesday.

No spectators at the start/ finish only Croft circuit please, we cannot guarantee safety at the football club test.

Entry to the circuit is free although Croft circuit kindly request a donation to their chosen charity St Teresa's hospice, Darlington.

First car will be at Croft around 10.15, the cars will leave the circuit for 3 remote tests (no public access) and regularity but return for more tests and a lunch halt around 12.00 noon. This will hopefully give the public a chance to see the cars & competitors close up.

Official photographs of the event will be on www.srh-motorsport-photography.com shortly after the event. Simon Harrison is our chosen photographer and a good friend of Stockton & District Motor Club, please support him by purchasing a picture or two of the event.

The organisers wish you all a safe and pleasant day.

club sec

The event is still on despite todays legal ruling.

Noise is capped at 98db as per the blue book.

Gav Taylor

does that mean I wont be able to park my Vectra in croft car park?

Its just the secondary air pump causes very loud backfire with a straight through on

Gav Taylor

not a bad day.

Took a more mature gentleman from Ilkley MC up to the finish, drove all the Cliff Hall stage in anger...gets to the finish we both get out and he looks at me and says "thats not a standard engine then"

yes my friend, it is.

slippy

Quite enjoyed this morning, bit of craic with JTW and Bob Mack at signing on along the lines of Gaylor is a piss head and wont surface till after lunch

Monster butty & brew from the chuck wagon and a walk round noise/scruitineering checking out the cars

Marshalled/spectated on test 2 and was quite impressed with some of the crews commitment but also & unfortunatley witnessed the mini estate twatting the tree that hard e bent the roof amongst other things

Good event all in all and nice to see some old cars getting a ringing out

Gav Taylor

Gav Taylor

slippy

I had faith in you son

Gav Taylor

club sec

Gav Taylor

I see test 6 times were cancelled so I effectively wasted a day marshalling.

club sec

It was all your fault!

Seriously, who was to know the clock would break?

Regardless of that, Mike and I give many, many thanks to all those who in any way assisted with the day however big or small the contribution on a very cold day.

Gav Taylor

my clock was right! it was the startline clock that was miles out.

had to tell every crew why they were getting a negative time

cue the comment... I thought i was going fast but not that fast etc etc x20

quite enjoyed my position actually

anything where you have to sign your name is cool lol

skodaman

For the record, Gav was first at Cliffe Hall - I'm lost for words !!!

club sec

But later attended the gay pride section of the CHR

club sec

club sec

New BBC police drama " The Stewards" a good cop bad cop series

Oi !! You're nicked!

Gav Taylor

club sec

Rarer than a bigfoot sighting

club sec

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist. And like that... he is gone.

Gav Taylor

so near yet so far sec.

I would liken it to the "20 minutes behind bin laden" Bush claimed to have gotten

until next year my friends......

club sec

Nice to see you, to see you NICE.

Gav Taylor

always gets the birds tho, unlike me

club sec

Tess Daly, you know you would.

You might need a facebook account to see these

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#...9000&id=1355651757&ref=nf

Gav Taylor

whats facebook?

club sec

Like myspace only better.

Gav Taylor

never heard of it.

you young guns

Simon

Fantastic days rallying! Bloomin' freezing though. Well done to all at the club for putting on such a great show.

A selection of photographys from the event is now online. Follow the link below to view them: -

http://www.srh-motorsport-photography.fotopic.net/c1647051.html

Cheers,

Simon.

club sec

Love the RS2000 bursting out of Barton Ford and the Alpine with the back end round at Cliffe hall.

club sec

I am reliably informed that the CHR was not only on TTTV but also mentioned (with footage) on Sky sportsnews yesterday.

club sec

Just a quick word of thanks from Dave Marsden and I for another competitive and very well run Croft Historic Rally. With the deteriorating weather forecast we took off early for the drive over the Pennines and were unable to express our thanks at the finish.
So, would you please pass on our thanks to all the team and especially your marshalls who endured seriously cold conditions with great good spirit - they gave is a great day out.

We took home a Cortine with a broken gear box. 1st gear went with a big bang with 3 tests to complete so we limped around (as quickly as we could!) to complete all the tests.
Best regards,

Mike Garstang

We had a great time learning how to use the handbrake. By the afternoon I had more or less worked out how to get the back out, and, by accident as it happens, how to get the front moving while holding the back wheels. And whilst I didn't manage to get the whole 360 I was getting the idea. Anyway, on one of the repeat tests we had 4+ minutes in the morning, and just over 2 mins in the afternoon, so something must have changed for the better.

many thanks and please pass them on to Martin too

Simon and Jacob

Bryan Smith & Ernest Calvert both really enjoyed the event. After test 2 Ernest's arms were dropping off and Bryan had a sore throat from shouting, they both expected and wanted to do that test again as the last test - as a sting in the tail! Ernest's only complaint was the amount of mud on some of the roads - it meant he'd have to clear under the car again!!!

skodaman

Liked the pictures Simon. Like Martin said, the Alpine at Cliffe Hall was the pick of the bunch!

slippy

Cracking pics as ever Simon are you doing the Riponian ?

One from me

joe_the_waiter

slippy

I like them mate they are certainly more vuisually rewarding than pics of Gaylor wearing a mutilated racoon on his fooking heed